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Tribal Maunga  

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Glenda OWC
(@glenda-owc)
New Member

Kia ora

Can anyone please help me out to find out the names of each tribal Maunga. I know Ngati Awa is Putauaki and Ngati Porou is Hikurangi but not sure of the rest. Does each Hapu have its own Maunga or is it just affliated to each tribe. We live in Australia. I would also like to know where I could find pictures of each Maunga and if I am able to use them for our business. Or do I need to get permission from each Hapu?

Looking forward to a response.

Naku noa

Glenda and Teepu
Nga Taonga O Aotearoa
Treasures of NZ

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Posted : 14 September, 2004 10:32 am
nrp OWC
(@nrp-owc)
New Member

Tena koe, Glenda
I cannot speak for others, but I know that within our Taiwhenua most Hapu affilliate to separate maunga. If the same is true for the rest of the country, then that's alot of maunga, ne?
Also I don't know the procedure for obtaining permission to use photographs. Possibly he rereke ia hapu, ia hapu. It may even be a touchy subject for some, because many maunga are tapu and their histories are firmly connected to o tatau tipuna.
I wish you the best of luck though, and can't wait to hear about the finished product.

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Posted : 17 September, 2004 10:48 pm
Glenda OWC
(@glenda-owc)
New Member

Kia ora for that. I have decided against the Maunga thing as u r right there are many hapu who affiliate with different Maunga and it could be touchy if I go ahead with it. I think I will just stick with the Waka idea as everyone can relate to their own Waka. Actually I have found a designer now so have left it up to him we want to be unique. Our Label on the Clothes will be Teenda Kakahu (my partners first 3 letters and my last 3 letters). What u would call Modern Maori but on the label it will have Designed in NZ. Beat saying Made in China. I will let u know about the finished product once done. Hopefully in the very near future.

Naku noa

Glenda
Nga Taonga O Aotearoa
Treasures of NZ

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Posted : 18 September, 2004 4:55 pm
Trudz OWC
(@trudz-owc)
New Member

Tena koe Glenda,
my partner & I are also keen to start a small business doing printed t shirts. My partner is very artistic & has been trying to find out about what he would need to start printing t shirts with no luck. Could you possibly share some info & advice with us about setting up a venture like this it would be very much appreciated. I wish you all the best with your endeavour. Arohanui Trudy

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Posted : 20 September, 2004 3:14 pm
Glenda OWC
(@glenda-owc)
New Member

Kia ora Trudy

I am not sure of where he would start as far as Screen Printing goes, no-one will tell u nothing when they know u r trying to start up your own business. Give a person who is doing his own Screen Printing T Shirts in Brisbane, his name is Graeme his phone number is 07 3423813. Tell him Glenda told you to ring him to see if he would be willing to help direct u in the right direction. U shouldn't be a threat to him. Let me know how u get on.

Naku noa

Glenda

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Posted : 20 September, 2004 7:17 pm
Trudz OWC
(@trudz-owc)
New Member

Kia-ora ano Glenda,
thank you very much for your quick reply. I gathered that's why he wasn't having much progress with his enquiries, because of the competition out there. He is so very passionate about his art & everything he does always has a beautiful meaning. It's such a positive project for him and I really want him to succeed with it as he has had a very bad upbringing & getting to where he is today has been a struggle for him. It really amazes me that someone with such terrible memories can produce such wonderfully brilliant art. Thank you again for your help & I will definitely let you know how we get on. Arohanui kia manawanui Trudy

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Posted : 22 September, 2004 4:08 pm
mauriora OWC
(@mauriora-owc)
Active Member

Nga Pae Maunga o Te Upokorehe
Ko Hiwarau te Maunga
Ko TeKaraka te Awa

Ko Tirotirowhetu te Maunga
Ko TeKakaho te awa

Ko Pukenuioraho te Maunga
Ko Waiotahe te Awa

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Posted : 23 November, 2004 12:44 pm
mauriora OWC
(@mauriora-owc)
Active Member

Nga Pae Maunga o Te Upokorehe
Ko Hiwarau te Maunga
Ko TeKaraka te Awa

Ko Tirotirowhetu te Maunga
Ko TeKakaho te awa

Ko Te Rae o Pohatu te Maunga
Ko Kahikatea te Awa

Ko Pukenuioraho te Maunga
Ko Waiotahe te Awa

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Posted : 23 November, 2004 12:44 pm
hearty nati OWC
(@hearty-nati-owc)
Eminent Member

it depends really, in some rohe there is a peak which is big and has significance to all the surrounding hapu such as taranaki in the west, hikurangi in the east, maungapohatu in te urewera and most of the hapus will affiliate to that maunga.

but in some of the flatter areas like up north heaps of hapu have their own.

it all depends kare

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Posted : 22 November, 2005 11:32 pm
Te Kawatapuarangi OWC
(@te-kawatapuarangi-owc)
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Well within Waikato there is :

Taupiri Maunga The Maunga of Ngati Mahuta Haapu
Maungatautari The Ngaati Koroki Kahukura Haapu
Maungakawa The Ngaati Haaua Haapu
Onepoto The Ngati Tiipa Haapu
The Ngati Maniapoto people will refer to their Maunga called Pirongia and also Kakepuku

The Ngati Tuwharetoa (taupo) will refer to Tongariro Maunga
Pihanga Maunga
Ruapeehu Maunga
Ngauruhoe Maunga

Those of Taranaki would Taranaki of Course

Those of Nga Puhi
Ngati Rehia haapu would refer to Te Waha o Te Riri as their Maunga
those of Ngati Kahu would refer to Maungataniwha as their maunga

and thats about all i know kia ora

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Posted : 02 December, 2006 2:07 am
Te Paetahi OWC
(@te-paetahi-owc)
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quote:


Well within Waikato there is :

Taupiri Maunga The Maunga of Ngati Mahuta Haapu
Maungatautari The Ngaati Koroki Kahukura Haapu
Maungakawa The Ngaati Haaua Haapu
Onepoto The Ngati Tiipa Haapu
The Ngati Maniapoto people will refer to their Maunga called Pirongia and also Kakepuku

The Ngati Tuwharetoa (taupo) will refer to Tongariro Maunga
Pihanga Maunga
Ruapeehu Maunga
Ngauruhoe Maunga

Those of Taranaki would Taranaki of Course

Those of Nga Puhi
Ngati Rehia haapu would refer to Te Waha o Te Riri as their Maunga
those of Ngati Kahu would refer to Maungataniwha as their maunga

and thats about all i know kia ora


Of course mine is based on korero from my pakeke passed down to me so it has to be right!! It was Te Wherowhero who started the whole business off when he attended the first hui at Pukawa and was chosen as the first king. In his whaikorero, he did the thing about Tongariro, Taupo and Te Heuheu and started off a trend. You'll probably find that from that time on, other iwi/rangatira started to follow his model. In other words, they're a fairly recent phenomenon. Most iwi have slogans which they are identified by - Tini whetu i te rangi, ko Ngati xxx ki te whenua; Nga pumanawa e waru o Rangitihi; Waikato taniwha rau... I get a little taken aback with teachers of te reo who tell their students to go identify their maunga, their awa, etc when in many cases those things are not the unique identifier of a student's iwi or hapu. The question is more accurate to have a student go and find out what their whakatauki is.

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Posted : 24 January, 2007 11:08 am
taiga
(@taiga)
Trusted Member

I debate that there whakatauki is what should be searched out instead of the maunga. Although i agree that in past these whakatauki were the more commonly used tribal identifiers, they are also made and created by man. Whereas maunga and awa are not. These should be of course your first point of referrence as they are what carry the bones and spirit of the ancestors that preceeded the individual. Whakatauki are made for specific incidents and are then applied to the greater descendants but at the root are not owned by the individual who uses it as the maunga, waka and awa are.

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Posted : 25 January, 2007 10:42 am
Te Paetahi OWC
(@te-paetahi-owc)
Active Member

quote:


I debate that there whakatauki is what should be searched out instead of the maunga. Although i agree that in past these whakatauki were the more commonly used tribal identifiers, they are also made and created by man. Whereas maunga and awa are not. These should be of course your first point of referrence as they are what carry the bones and spirit of the ancestors that preceeded the individual. Whakatauki are made for specific incidents and are then applied to the greater descendants but at the root are not owned by the individual who uses it as the maunga, waka and awa are.


No debate from me on this. I've seen what can happen in debates in these forums and thats just among whanau!!

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Posted : 25 January, 2007 7:58 pm
taiga
(@taiga)
Trusted Member

Lol! Ana kua tika!

I guess you refer to the Tainui lot??? haha i think thats more bickering than actual debating

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Posted : 26 January, 2007 9:09 pm
Tane_nz OWC
(@tane_nz-owc)
Active Member

Taranaki, Maunga Taranaki - English name Mount Egmont,which was labled Egmont by captain cook, but wideley knowen an is still being called by its first name Maunga Taranaki.. who is egmont enyway ( rolls eyes)

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Posted : 27 January, 2007 9:12 am
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