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Te Terenga Tuna - Nga Puhi  

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Tamahura
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Kei te rapu ano ahau i nga korero mo te tupuna a Hera.

I heke mai i nga kawei whakaheketanga whakapapa o Mataatua

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Posted : 25 October, 2005 9:28 pm
Tamahura
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He whakamarama ake tenei mo nga korero a Hera i homai nei ki ahau e toku whaea ake, i tapaina nei ki te ingoa o tera tupuna.
Ko nga whakataukitanga mo tera ingoa e penei ana:
* ' E kui. e Hera, te terenga tuna!'
* " Heranga tuna ngoiro. "

E ai ki nga whakamarama, he tohunga ruahine a Hera. Ko ona kai-tiaki ko nga tuna teretere i te moana. Ko tona mana ko tona heru i whakamahia ai ki te karanga i nga tuna nei.
Ka tae ki tetahi wa, ka riro te heru o Hera i etahi nanakia. No te unga mai o nga tuna ki uta, katahi ka patua. Ka noho tera mahi kino hei ngaki ma Hera.

Ko enei korero, no roto ano o Ngati Kura o Matauri Bay. No reira hoki tera kuia.

Ko Hera, ka moe i a Pera kia puta ki waho a Rangi ( Ihapera ). Ko Rangi ( Ihapera ) ka moe i a Pirika Te Raihe Henare ( No roto ano o Tapuika - Te Arawa ki puta ki waho ko toku tupuna kuia.

E kingia ana ko nga maatua a Hera Ko Tiki raua ko Taro Kamura.

Kaore ahau e mohio ana, no hea te ingoa ra a Kamura.

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Posted : 27 October, 2005 6:34 pm
Tamahura
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akuanei kei te whanau o Tapui - Matauri Bay he korero tapiri mo tenei pea...

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Posted : 03 December, 2005 1:56 am
hohaia2 OWC
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TE AEHAERE
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PUI
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KORI
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PERA = HERA
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IHAKA PERA = MOTAU PURU
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MERE [a.k.a. KIORI] IHAKA PERA = WETE [WETERE HAARE
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|-RIHI WETE HAARE = HAIMONA RIAPO PUHIPI
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|-ENE WETE HAARE

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Posted : 03 December, 2005 10:03 am
Tamahura
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Taiku rawa atu, Hohaia.
I see the Puru connections, I never knew that.
Some of those names ring alot of bells too, Like Riapo and Puhipi, interesting alright

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Posted : 03 December, 2005 11:35 am
hohaia2 OWC
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Ka nui nga mihi atu kia koe e Takirihi,

I am currently compiling my son's whakapapa on his maternal grandmothers side from Wainui, Te Ngaere, and Matauri Bay.
I am trying to marry up the connection of Motau Puru and her siblings [if any], to Hongi Hika's son, Puru.
I am also of the 'Hohaia' whanau, but not the Hohaia whanau from Matauri Bay. We hail from Hokianga.
Does Murimotu Hohaia or Wi Hohaia ring a bell?
One of them married Mihi Kanarahi Pirika [daugther of Rangi Pera and Pirika]. They might be one in the same person.
Ratahi Hohaia and Heene Wingawhau were the parents of Murimotu, So I am told.
I eagerly await for your response e hoa.

Heoi oti ki nga korero maku!

Na Hohaia.

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Posted : 03 December, 2005 1:18 pm
Tamahura
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I have heard of those places you mentions, " Te Ngaere and Wainui.
We are related to the More family in Te Ngaere, although we are all linked to those areas I know.
My cousin who was whanagi in to us from Wainui is from there. I think she was a Paua.

Murimotu and Mihi Kanarahi are my great grandparents,
Mihi Kanarahi's father was a Pirika from Tapuika, Te Arawa, he was chased out of Te Tai Tokerau by the Nga Puhi because of him being Te Arawa. Ihapera was left hapu with Mihi Kanarahi, she is buried over at Waiaua, I heard she had a kainga at an old place up there in Matauri called Otea

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Posted : 03 December, 2005 1:41 pm
Tamahura
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I am trying to track the Ratahi whakapapa as the lines I got only went thru Heeni. Heeni Ngawhai gives us our connections to the Taotahi and Epiha lines.

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Posted : 03 December, 2005 1:46 pm
hohaia2 OWC
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Ae marika! Kia ora koe mo to tupuna korero ki a au.
Pono tika i nga matua tupuna o tatou.
I will get back to you regarding Ratahi's tupuna. I know I saw it somewhere recently in a minute book at the Maori Land Court.

Hohaia.

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Posted : 03 December, 2005 2:38 pm
Tamahura
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That sounds interesting with those land minute records Hohaia.
Why I say, is coze my reason for putting my post up in here was concerning the name Hera.
I was told the story of that tupuna kuia s name by my mother. The name had pao ( chant ) that held the history of that name and the mana of the name. My mother was only able to give me bits and pices of that chant, as it was sung to her as a child.
I was only trying to track the song, coze I have a taonga belonging to my koro that concerns that name Hera. I want to pass it over to the next one in our family that bears the name....that they take the history with it.

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Posted : 03 December, 2005 4:57 pm
Tamahura
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Ratahi was my uncles name, he was the oldest of my mothers brothers, he was held up north, to keep the Nga Puhi Binds.
Three of my grandmothers kids we all brought up North, only Ratahi was held up there by Kanarahi.
The rest of the troop were moved back to Putaruru and a piece of land was given to my kuia from her tupuna to bind the whanau back into Tainui.
Back in Tainui, there was a big upset, knowing the land was to go towards a Nga Puhi.
As you know in them times, the history was still like yesterday to them old people.
Little did they know my koroua had Te Arawa connections to Tapuika, thru his koro.
And another connection you will find in the Nga Puhi whakapapa is Kooperu who married Hine-a-maru.
Koperu from down Tauranga Kaimai ranges way our areas.
Thats a connection too apart from Reitu and Reipae.
Anyway thats the reason for the Hohaia name being in Putaruru. Its a well known name by the older lot, and is well known for having a huge whanau.
But names that we hold are: Te Urumingi, Te Koutu, Ratahi, Hapeta. we have been told those names are from Nga Puhi which are still used in the whanau now.

Haapeta was a brother to Heeni Ngawhau and Taotahi.

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Posted : 03 December, 2005 5:06 pm
hohaia2 OWC
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Excerpt extracted from:
Minute Book Reference: 3 TOK 173 [dated at: 10 October 1905]

Pera wedded Hera at Kaikohe and came here. Pera brought her here to Matauri. His parents were killed by the parents of Hera at Tapuaetahi. Toru went and brought him here. Toru is a descendant of Taniwharau. Pera was a relation of his.
Hera and Pera first lived at Haranui, the other side of Waiaua. Then from there they came to live at Ruahinetahi near Waiaua. That land was sold by the chiefs. Then they came to Waiaua to live.
Toru was there and it was under his mana that they lived there.

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Posted : 03 December, 2005 5:25 pm
Tamahura
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I noticed all the whakapapa I got, the tane are put to one side and the women likewise, even though it dont match to the top. I see the name Kori in my whakapapa who married Aueke, my feeling tells me its Auheke, why coze that makes sense to the sea environment there...
By the way thanks for that above korero. seems like Rangi ( Pera ) had brothers and sisters called Ihaka and Hone. Just dawned on me that must be where the whanau name Johns comes from up in Matauri

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Posted : 04 December, 2005 9:20 pm
Tamahura
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Now the Toru you spoke of b4, that wouldn't be Toruera who married Ketengaro would it?
That whakapapa comes down on my tupuna Heeni s line

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Posted : 04 December, 2005 9:22 pm
hohaia2 OWC
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PERA = HERA
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|-IHAKA PERA
|-PIRIKA PERA
|-HONE PERA
|-RANGI PERA

Ihaka, Pirika, Hone, and Rangi are all siblings.
I was looking around the cemeteries last week up and around Wainui and Te Ngaere. It's so easy for myself to see what families come from there, and how they have transversed their family name from their tupuna, to the english name [i.e. Hone to Johns or Wiremu to Williams].

As to your query re. Toru

TE AEHAERE
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TORU
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HARIATA
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PUHIPI PENE

.... and in relation to Pera:

TE AEHAERE
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PUI
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KORI
|
PERA
|
IHAKA PERA me etahi atu

As we exchange info e hoa, you slowly see how the families tie in.

Kia ora.

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Posted : 05 December, 2005 8:44 am
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