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taiga
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Conquerer of the islands!

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Posted : 19 October, 2006 6:37 pm
taiga
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Teina to Nganaariki and Reimatua! Reimatua whose descendants are Rapanui

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Posted : 19 October, 2006 6:38 pm
taiga
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One of the greatest ancestors in history!

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Posted : 21 October, 2006 10:58 pm
taiga
(@taiga)
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Na Whakataupotiki te kawai hekenga kia te Kuraimonoa

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Posted : 21 October, 2006 10:59 pm
taiga
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He Atua he Tupuna!

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Posted : 21 October, 2006 11:00 pm
pono OWC
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This not the same tupuna you mention?
whakatau-potiki = Rangaunu
begat Rakataura?

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Posted : 23 October, 2006 11:36 pm
tane_ariki OWC
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Are you talking about Rapa Nui as in Easter Island? What links are you talking about here? From the whakapapa tables I've seen for the ariki line of Rapa Nui, none of them mention anything about Whakataupotiki....

and I study Rapa Nui language too.

E haka'ite ena au i te vananga Rapa Nui.

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Posted : 24 October, 2006 8:16 am
taiga
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Lol! Try Reimatua. We had a trip to Noumea, a cultural exchange type of things between the pacific nations. One was Rapanui who the Maori delegation got on really well with. Through discussion the Rapanui people told that they were the senior line, through Reimatua who was the elder brother to Whakataupotiki. It was actually easier to understand them speaking their native reo and us ours.

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Posted : 24 October, 2006 9:12 am
superbee OWC
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Kia ora
I am wondering why you have singled out this tupuna who is twenty generations before Kupe and six from Hema o Hawaii.
PI

Edited by - superbee on Nov 03 2006 8:20:46 PM

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Posted : 02 November, 2006 7:56 pm
taiga
(@taiga)
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Because he is probably the most important tupuna of our people here. Thus so that our paepae is in honour of him, and our direct lineage to him and that i don't believe he is very well recognised. And cos it'd be good to hear ianyone elses knowledge about him

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Posted : 03 November, 2006 8:06 am
tane_ariki OWC
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Hm, this is the first time that I've heard about this whakapaparanga in relation to Rapa Nui and our people. How did their rainforest get destroyed? I'm curious because if they were the tuakana then they should have known better and not chopped down all of their trees.....

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Posted : 03 November, 2006 11:55 am
taiga
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By tuakana, you have to look way back through lines. Our interconnectedness throuhout the islands is unquestionable but our traits are unique to our own. Just because they are tuakana to Whakataupotiki doesnt mean that they have to act and be the same as us. Obviously we are not the same as the ancestors we left on the islands...

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Posted : 03 November, 2006 12:16 pm
tane_ariki OWC
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By tuakana, you have to look way back through lines. Our interconnectedness throuhout the islands is unquestionable but our traits are unique to our own. Just because they are tuakana to Whakataupotiki doesnt mean that they have to act and be the same as us. Obviously we are not the same as the ancestors we left on the islands...


I'm not questioning the connectedness at all, but rather, where those connections are made (since, if Whakataupotiki lived in Hawaiki, in Rangiatea, that would then legitimise what the Tahitians have been saying - that the Rapa Nui are a part of their people who left many eons ago). I'm just sceptical because everywhere else in Polynesia we managed to ensure that we looked after the environment. What went wrong on their island, is what I'm curious about.

Plus, the linguistic evidence suggests that the language spoken on Rapa Nui, has a lot of conservative features not found in NZ Maori (or in any Eastern Polynesian languages). I find this subject about Rapa Nui rather fascinating.

Edited by - tane_ariki on Nov 03 2006 12:35:14 PM

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Posted : 03 November, 2006 12:29 pm
taiga
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Sorry, thought we were going at it again! Lol

Um yes it is quite fascinating.

Is there evidence of any outside influences affecting these people?

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Posted : 03 November, 2006 12:40 pm
Retimana OWC
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Aroha Mai taiga and tane ariki,

Aue korua! I've noticed your membership 'seniority' on this site and the wide spectrum of your korero within this forum.

Forgive a mere mortal for asking but are these 'exchanges' between you about or 1-up-man-ship

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Posted : 03 November, 2006 1:12 pm
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