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What is a good whakapapa programme?  

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poutokomanawa
(@poutokomanawa)
Trusted Member

Kia ora,

I am looking at putting my whakapapa together on a computer programme and would like advise and guidence as to the best whakapapa programme available, as well as costs.

Thank you for your time

Nau te raurau,
Naku te raurau,
Ka ora ai nga tangata!
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Together we will get there!
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Posted : 14 September, 2004 2:34 pm
maoriorgnz
(@maoriorgnz)
Admin

Kia ora,
Although maori.org.nz refrains from replying to posts kei a koutou te mana! this one is an acception.

[url="http://cristal.inria.fr/~ddr/GeneWeb/"]GeneWeb[/url] is the programme that we use and it is free.

The user interface where you enter names, dates, etc is a browser window, like explorer or netscape. It uses very little system resources and is fast.

The whakapapa reports that it returns are amazing!

For example, if a person is decended from 4 children of a captain of a waka the tree will show all the lines from all the children, all the tie ins where the lines comes back and if there are more branches that go out then back in, it will show this as well, right down to the person themselves.

You can also do a relationship computing, and it will tell you that A is a decendant of B through 16 generations and if there is more than one relationship ( A is also a decendant of B through 18 generations) it will show all of these as well as the trees.

It will produce reports for 1st cousins right up to nth cousins, depending how many generations you have.

If you wish to see all of the decendants of a person and their spouses for say 3 generations (grand parents to great children) these are easy to produce and really good for whanau re-unions as it will do tree view for up to 4 generations - you may need alot of paper to print these if your tree is big.

It will also count your relations, telling you that you have 144 first cousins, 603 second cousins etc.

You can click a button and get all your aunts and uncles, great aunts and uncles as well.

It can do the relationship computing for spouses and if there are more than one connection, all of these will be shown.

It is easy to add more than one spouse as well as whangai. You can keep the whangai child with the natural parent(s) and add them to their whangai parents. Again, relationship computing will show the relationships.

This programme also has language files, so we have changed the language file to Maori. It is not fully translated yet, but now we have He aha te whanaungatanga ki a ...? instead of relationship computing and He Tupuna o te whakatupuranga 20 instead of an ancestor of the 20th generation etc.

You can also add in titles and ranks for places or areas then get the programme to draw the tree showing how each rangatira for that title and place/area are related.

You do not have to define if a person is male or female, and this can be very helpful with old Maori names when it may not be known if the person is male or female. As soon as you find out that someone is male or female and they are married, when you make them male (or female), their spouse will automatically become female (or male).

It produces the gedcom files which you need if you are going to give your data to other people who do not have this programme, or people can give you gedcom files for you to import into this programme.

If you want those pedigree charts, it can easily do those too.

This is the best programme found, it is free, fast and can be in the Maori Language

Heoi ano,
maori.org.nz Team
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http://www.themaorimegamall.com/ - a virtual mall specialising in Maori products

http://www.maoricreations.com/ - specialising in Maori Design products - you can also create your own with our kowhaiwhai templates

http://kotitihaere.maori.org.nz/
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Posted : 14 September, 2004 3:23 pm
poutokomanawa
(@poutokomanawa)
Trusted Member

Wow! What a full answer!

I have two other questions if you don't mind answering.

You said that the user interface is a browser window.

Does this mean that the information is available on the net? I would not like to use a programme that lets other people access my whakapapa.

If it does not mean that it is on the net, is there any chance of having the Maori Language files?

Thank you for your time

Nau te raurau,
Naku te raurau,
Ka ora ai nga tangata!
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Together we will get there!
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Posted : 14 September, 2004 5:03 pm
maoriorgnz
(@maoriorgnz)
Admin

Although the user interface is a browser, it is not a programme that is run off the net. There are two files that get installed on your computer and when these run then you open your browser and off you go.

There is a [url="http://www.geneanet.org/"]place on the net[/url] that runs this programme on the server and you can set up an account there free if you want your whakapapa to be online. The good thing with this setup is that you can set access levels, either everyone can see the files, some can see the files but not edit them or no one can see or edit the files without a username and password. Also, you can set it so that your whakapapa files are not indexed, which means that none of the information can be accessible even by search engines.

One other thing that I did not mention in my initial post is that the programme requires a surname, and therefore any tupuna before the mid 1850's usually does not have a surname. The way that I get around this to to use the surname x for everyone with only one name. This makes it easy for searching. This is the only drawback of this programme.

The Maori language files are not completely translated, as was stated in the first post. However, if you would like a copy of these files, send me a pm (private message) and I will email them to you with instructions on how to install them. But remember, they are not fully translated yet and we do not know when they will be. We work on these files when we work on whakapapa and we work on whakapapa when the wairua calls, so sometimes it could be for 2 - 3 weeks non stop then a 4 - 5 month break.

Heoi ano,
maori.org.nz Team
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http://www.maori.org.nz/ - the Main Maori Site on the Net

http://www.themaorimegamall.com/ - a virtual mall specialising in Maori products

http://www.maoricreations.com/ - specialising in Maori Design products - you can also create your own with our kowhaiwhai templates

http://kotitihaere.maori.org.nz/
Our Travel site

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Posted : 14 September, 2004 11:49 pm
FunkyJai OWC
(@funkyjai-owc)
Active Member

Good Answer

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Posted : 06 June, 2007 10:19 pm
taiga
(@taiga)
Trusted Member

That sounds primo, will have a look
kia ora

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Posted : 06 June, 2007 10:36 pm
ngati_kuri@hotmail.com OWC
(@ngati_kurihotmail-com-owc)
Eminent Member

Kia ora for your arohatanga maori.org.nz

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Posted : 15 June, 2007 1:51 am
Dolly OWC
(@dolly-owc)
Active Member

I know its late, hey call me Ngati Tureiti, but i would like to offer another software programme.

I use Legacy (Millenia Corp) genealogical software programme. After many years of trial & error with other programmes I have found Legacy to be more user friendly (comes with a plain english manual)

Why Legacy ( i should get paid sales commission for this)
Step-by step instructions;
Tutorials;
Tips and tricks
Newsletters keeping you up-to-date

Merging capabilities - oh what a relief!!!
Multiple spouses are recognised, whangai capable.
Calendars and birthday reminders
Events timeline - good for historical memories
Date calculator - some headstones give date died and age only, this will do the job.
Alternate names - capable of listing alternative names or spelling of in an orderly manner.
Multimedia capable - upload photos, voice, video files to individuals.
GEDCOM and PAF compatible
LDS Ordinances - with hot keys to Temples, Temple ready submissions
Unlimited number of individuals and families (I'm at 3,200 individuals ... and still going)

Reports - High quality, professional reports include: Family Group Sheet, Descendant Report, Ancestor Report, Timeline Report, Pedigree Chart, Lineage Report, Individual Reports, Source Citation Report, Potential Problems Report, Surname Summary, Relationship Report, LDS Ordinance Report, Ages Report, Name List Report. All reports can be customised.

You can print complete ancestor and descendant books, including pictures, title page, table of contents and index.

Need I say anymore, I love this programme, It has made life much more easier and you dont gotta know any special tricks to make the baby purr.

Costs and tour are on their site, follow the white rabbit KK

http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/

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Posted : 21 June, 2007 2:39 pm
Dolly OWC
(@dolly-owc)
Active Member

oops 4got 2 add - u have the choice to make available information online or to burn to disc

I do the disc thing!

& corrrrrrrrrrrrrr i can whaff KK <--- katakata

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Posted : 21 June, 2007 2:44 pm
Aubry OWC
(@aubry-owc)
Active Member

Any software which has Gedcom is a good start, I use Familytreemaker, legacy is good, but my preference is FTM

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Posted : 21 June, 2007 3:12 pm
interplanetjanet
(@interplanetjanet)
Eminent Member

another option is available through familysearch.org (lds site) they offer free downloads of Personal Ancestral Files which can allow the inclusion of photographs, notes and sources to be added. I understand they also have another free download which allows you to print off a variety of family tree charts. The information remains entirely with you unless you chose to submit it for inclusion to their site.

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Posted : 21 June, 2007 7:23 pm
kiwimaori OWC
(@kiwimaori-owc)
New Member

Kia Ora,

I use a programme called reunion. Pretty simple to use

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Posted : 23 September, 2007 4:31 pm
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