Ngati Waitapu o Waikato  

thank you for the reply......The reason I ask is because I have written whakapapa that has both Waitapu and Apakura in it.The land court information also mentions my 3rd grand uncle as a witness(Robert Stanley Barlow.The reason I ask is because his mother(My 3rd ggrandmother)is written as Waitapu who married an R Barlow

Wow! kia ora for your reply - that used to be normal years ago but not so much now, hence the reason I don't awhi too much anymore. I get hoha trying to awhi people who do not have the common courtesy to actually let me know if what I gave helped, but for those who reply it inspires me to find as much as I can to awhi them 🙂

But I digress.  Anyway, lets lay a ground rule so I don't get confused  😀 

Use Ngati Apakura and Ngati Waitapu if we are talking about the iwi and just Apakura and Waitapu when we are talking about the person. Ngati means descendants of, so Ngati Apakura (the iwi) are the descendants of Apakura (the person).

So the whakapapa that you have has both Waitapu and Apakura in it - is that meaning the iwi or the person? Also, is Waitapu the name of your 3rd ggrandmother or her iwi?  See how a whakapapa person can get confused? *LOL*

Sorry but this is all new to me.I was brought up not knowing my maori side.My 3rd ggrandmother was Ngati Apakura Her name was Makete Romana according to records...…..By on this written whakapapa her name is Waitapu hence the confusion.

No worries - I know how whakapapa can be confusing when you first start looking into it 🙂

I have done a google search for Makete Romana and found a few results, which I will summarize here, but you can look at the pages through the link I put above. (SURNAMES are in capitals)

Makete ROMANA (also known as Waitapu) was married twice. Born about 1830, died about 1880

Her first marriage was to Robert BARLOW and they had Robert Stanley BARLOW, born about 1847

Next marriage to ? JAMIESON and they had Elizabeth Jane TREANOR, born about 1850 or there abouts (maiden name THOMPSON) - I am not sure why her maiden name apparently is THOMPSON.

Her will is held at the Auckland Museum where you may be able to see it.

So, Waitapu appears to also be another name that she is known by which would be quite normal - see Maori Naming Conventions for how it all works.

Makete ROMANA could also be Makete NORMAN.

If you want to look more into Makete ROMANA, it would be best to create a new post in the Tracing Tupuna forum and put the title something like this:

ROMANA, Makete: Trying to trace her tupuna

That way, people looking for information will see her name as a heading and not buried in this post with a different title!  If you are going to do that, put as much info as you can about her and we can take it from there. 

But I think your original question has been answered, Makete ROMANA is Ngati Apakura and she is also known by the name of Waitapu.

I have just found a Waitapu BARLOW born about 1872 in Taupo, died November 1918, father Robert BARLOW and mother Haehaeora TE WATENE.  Maybe this child was named after Makete ROMANA, using her other known name of Waitapu 🙂

Kia ora and once again thank you. We have discovered that Elizabeth jane was  indeed a Barlow(My Second ggrandmother)according to her son Charles death cert.The main thing im working out now is which hapu of  apakura was in Rangiaowhia around 1850-1860's which I belevie to be hers

Kia ora!, 

The best way to find out would be to ask at the Ngati Apakura site or on the Ngati Apakura Facebook page. I'm not from this area so would not want to even have a guess and put you wrong 🙂 

Thank you for all your help so far.It has not been an easy journey but one that I need to do

You are most welcome and good luck! Naturally if there is anything else you need help with, just post in the forums 🙂