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nzmade OWC
New Member

Kia Ora.

I am hoping to find info about Tamatea-pokai-whenua.
Can anybody tell me who his brothers were?

Posted : 28 September, 2006 9:05 am
matahuru OWC
Eminent Member

Kia ora nzmade

You could try a book called "The lore of Te Whare Wananga". I donnot remember the author but the source of the information was a very famous learned man from Ngati Kahungunu named Te Matorohanga, one of the last properly trained Ruanuku (tohunga)of ancient times. A fascinating read to be sure.

Posted : 28 September, 2006 11:22 am
nzmade OWC
New Member

Kia Ora Matahuru.

I will go find the book today. I am trying to find more detailed history about the Matanui battle that took place at the back of Porangahau.
Tamatea's brother was killed during this battle and Tamatea named that place TaumatawhakatangihangakoauauoTamateaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu, if anybody has any info they would like to contribute about the longest place name also that would be much appreciated.

Kia Ora Matahuru, you may have just helped me solve the puzzle.

Nga mihi ki a koe.


Posted : 28 September, 2006 11:55 am
Active Member

Kia ora nzmade,
Here is something I found on Tamatea-pokai-whenua.
(c.A.D. 1350), but no mention of brothers - sorry.

Legendary traveller.

Tamatea-Pokai-Whenua was born in Hawaiki in the period before the Great Migration. He was the son of Rongokako and a descendant of the legendary Maui. His mother's name was Muriwhenua. He came to New Zealand in the Takitimu canoe but left it at Turanga (Gisborne) and travelled overland, keeping close to the coast, until he reached Ahuriri. There, according to the legend, his pet crocodile, Tapu-Te-Ranga, escaped. From Ahuriri he continued towards the Ruahines, but his son, Kahungunu, was unwilling to cross them and returned to settle on the Heretaunga Plains. Tamatea continued his journey until he reached a high mountain, where another of his pets, the serpent, Pohokura (or Pukeokahu), escaped. When he reached the Moawhango River Tamatea plunged the brands from his fire into the waters, where they became taniwhas (spirits) and may be seen to this day. As he walked along the beach towards Wanganui, his dog ran into the sea and became a taniwha. Shortly before he reached the pa at Wanganui, Tamatea paused to dress his hair. From this circumstance, the place became known as Putiki-waranui-a-Tamatea or Tamatea's top-knot. He paddled up the Wanganui River until he reached Omaka, where there proved to be no anchorage. Tamatea therefore bent one of the rocks in the river and tied his canoe's anchor cable about it. He reached Lake Taupo and paddled his canoe across it to the Waikato River, but lost his life shortly afterwards when he tried to shoot the Huka Falls. In the course of his travels Tamatea-Pokai-Whenua left his name upon many geographical features: the most famous of these is a little hill, near Porangahau, Hawke's Bay, called Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauo-tamateapokaiwhenuakitanatahu or “the hill where Tamatea-Pokai-Whenua played his flute….”

Tamatea had two wives. His principal wife, Iwirau, was the mother of Kahungunu, the eponymous ancestor of the Ngati Kahungunu; his other wife, Mahakiroa, was the mother of four sons, including Apa, the eponymous ancestor of the Ngati Apa.

Tamatea-Pokai-Whenua, or Tamatea-who-encircled-the-land, is the great land traveller of Maori tradition. He is not to be confused with Tamatea-Ariki-Nui, the captain of Takitimu canoe.

Posted : 28 September, 2006 6:05 pm
nzmade OWC
New Member

Kia Ora Leah.

I have been reading the same book you have over and over again to see if I can find a link to any of Tamatea's brothers, but alas...
I have found some info though about possibly one of Tamatea's brothers. I hope ive got this right, The first explorer of the Whanganui river was Tamatea-pokai-whenua, who llived in the time of Turi. While travelling around the country, Tamatea anchored off Whanganui and sent his assistant Tau-kai ashore for some flax with which to make a puutiki. Flax was found at Awarua, and the area became known as Te Puutiki-wharanui-a-Tamatea-pokai-whenua. Later Turi came to Whanganui and met Tamatea, whose brother Uenga-ariki married Turi's daughter Taneroroa. Their son Ruanui is the eponymous ancestor of Ngati Ruanui.
If anybody out there could help confirm this for me it would be much appreciated.

Thank you very much Leah, you helped me get a good lead on the information I need.



Posted : 28 September, 2006 7:25 pm
New Member

Tenā koa awhi mai,

i am asking if any one has information about the Matanui Battle please

All information will be used for a Iwi & Hapū assignment, all kōrero will be referenced. 

I also plan on teaching this in my akomanga.

Posted : 05 November, 2018 2:50 am